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Re: Politics

Postby the cheese » 15 Mar 2017, 17:33

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Former Daily Show feature subject, fetus food Oklahoma Senator arrested for child (male) prostitution.

He's the guy who introduced a bill to ban the use of fetuses in food. He also was the original political coordinator for Trump's Oklahoma operations.

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Apparently the day after he hung out with a young boy in a Super 8 motel room, he hung out with Donald Trump, Jr.

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I've almost gotten into a barfight with this guy because I accidentally bumped him (didn't know who it was) and he wouldn't let it go.

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Re: Politics

Postby Dthefritz » 15 Mar 2017, 17:35

JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.
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Re: Politics

Postby JT99 » 15 Mar 2017, 17:42

Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.
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Re: Politics

Postby Dthefritz » 15 Mar 2017, 17:48

JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.

There is still reasonable discourse for those who like to consume it. There's just more noise.

I think the 2004 election, for example, was just as contentious as last year's. And Kerry similarly struggled to have a concise 15 word message that showed the virtue of his campaign.
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Re: Politics

Postby JT99 » 15 Mar 2017, 17:51

Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.

There is still reasonable discourse for those who like to consume it. There's just more noise.

I think the 2004 election, for example, was just as contentious as last year's. And Kerry similarly struggled to have a concise 15 word message that showed the virtue of his campaign.


Great take.

More noise is the best way of putting it.
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Re: Politics

Postby Gregs Kite » 15 Mar 2017, 18:05

JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.

There is still reasonable discourse for those who like to consume it. There's just more noise.

I think the 2004 election, for example, was just as contentious as last year's. And Kerry similarly struggled to have a concise 15 word message that showed the virtue of his campaign.


Great take.

More noise is the best way of putting it.


What about other disturbances?

Sup Sco?
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Re: Politics

Postby babylurch » 16 Mar 2017, 06:20

I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."
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Re: Politics

Postby Theny » 16 Mar 2017, 06:41

babylurch wrote:I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."


I don't know man, he's self employed and owns all these corporations. Paying nothing one year wouldn't surprise me, and paying 38 million one year doesn't surprise me.
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Re: Politics

Postby mister bacon » 16 Mar 2017, 07:04

Theny wrote:
babylurch wrote:I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."


I don't know man, he's self employed and owns all these corporations. Paying nothing one year wouldn't surprise me, and paying 38 million one year doesn't surprise me.


yes pretty much. i help self-employed guys calculate their annual income for child support purposes, and i always ask the court to aggregate the last five years of returns rather than cherry picking one year for just this reason.
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Re: Politics

Postby chrisco » 16 Mar 2017, 19:53

Gregs Kite wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.

There is still reasonable discourse for those who like to consume it. There's just more noise.

I think the 2004 election, for example, was just as contentious as last year's. And Kerry similarly struggled to have a concise 15 word message that showed the virtue of his campaign.


Great take.

More noise is the best way of putting it.


What about other disturbances?

Sup Sco?


I'll drink to that.

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Re: Politics

Postby MisterTambourineMan » 17 Mar 2017, 09:30

mister bacon wrote:
Theny wrote:
babylurch wrote:I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."


I don't know man, he's self employed and owns all these corporations. Paying nothing one year wouldn't surprise me, and paying 38 million one year doesn't surprise me.


yes pretty much. i help self-employed guys calculate their annual income for child support purposes, and i always ask the court to aggregate the last five years of returns rather than cherry picking one year for just this reason.



Concur, self-employed people have weird tax returns. They also don't have only 2 pages. Shit's a work.
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Re: Politics

Postby SouthernYokel » 17 Mar 2017, 09:34

MisterTambourineMan wrote:
mister bacon wrote:
Theny wrote:
babylurch wrote:I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."


I don't know man, he's self employed and owns all these corporations. Paying nothing one year wouldn't surprise me, and paying 38 million one year doesn't surprise me.


yes pretty much. i help self-employed guys calculate their annual income for child support purposes, and i always ask the court to aggregate the last five years of returns rather than cherry picking one year for just this reason.



Concur, self-employed people have weird tax returns. They also don't have only 2 pages. Shit's a work.


it's not a "work" in so much as it's real, none of the other pages would be interesting. The bottom line stuff is all on those first 2 pages. It is a work in so much as it's probably the year he paid the most taxes he ever paid and that was the one they allowed to leak out. Maddow is the functional retard who trumpeted their release without looking at them. Whatta maroon
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Re: Politics

Postby MisterTambourineMan » 17 Mar 2017, 09:36

SouthernYokel wrote:
MisterTambourineMan wrote:
mister bacon wrote:
Theny wrote:
babylurch wrote:I am confused about something with respect to Trump's tax return. I do not mean this as a political question, and certainly not as partisan. My recollection is that after one of the campaigns there was the allegation that Trump may have paid no taxes in some years. Again, my recollection is that Trump did not particular dispute that. I do not recall anyone-Trump surrogates, media, a CPA in Idaho-saying that of course he didn't pay nothing because of the AMT. I am puzzled as to why noone called BS on the claim that he could have paid no taxes. Unless I am wrong about how the AMT works, there must be a couple of million people who knew that it was wrong. Even if 90% of them had partisan or strategic reasons to keep the info to themselves, that still leaves a lot of people who could have said "Uh, guys, you're wrong."


I don't know man, he's self employed and owns all these corporations. Paying nothing one year wouldn't surprise me, and paying 38 million one year doesn't surprise me.


yes pretty much. i help self-employed guys calculate their annual income for child support purposes, and i always ask the court to aggregate the last five years of returns rather than cherry picking one year for just this reason.



Concur, self-employed people have weird tax returns. They also don't have only 2 pages. Shit's a work.


it's not a "work" in so much as it's real, none of the other pages would be interesting. The bottom line stuff is all on those first 2 pages. It is a work in so much as it's probably the year he paid the most taxes he ever paid and that was the one they allowed to leak out. Maddow is the functional retard who trumpeted their release without looking at them. Whatta maroon


The other pages would be interesting.

Agreed with everything else though. Maddow played herself.
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Re: Politics

Postby Gregs Kite » 17 Mar 2017, 09:36

chrisco wrote:
Gregs Kite wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
JT99 wrote:Like it or not, politics (and maybe everything) is now a "hot taek" and "meme" culture. If you can't explain your side's position in less than 15 words, you lose.

It's always worked that way. Just substitute political cartoons for memes.


I dunno. I feel like there used to be a good bit of discourse and the people who were not engaged were, for the most part, quiet about everything. Heck, maybe they didn't even vote. People were also okay with reaching across the aisle so long as the appearance was that shit was getting done.

Now, it feels like people are proud of not caring about the other side and if you sign off on anything proposed by the other team, you are O-U-T.

There is still reasonable discourse for those who like to consume it. There's just more noise.

I think the 2004 election, for example, was just as contentious as last year's. And Kerry similarly struggled to have a concise 15 word message that showed the virtue of his campaign.


Great take.

More noise is the best way of putting it.


What about other disturbances?

Sup Sco?


I'll drink to that.

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Re: Politics

Postby bosux » 17 Mar 2017, 21:26

by bosux » 02 Mar 2016, 13:34
if the democratic power machine is so tone deaf as to foist $hrillary upon the electorate they will lose to Trump...bet on it
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