Random Thoughts - TV Edition

[IhateTomBrady]

So I didn't find an X files thread, and given how long its been I figured I post this here:

I just saw the series finale again and the last movie.
Has there ever been a series that became such utter rubbish so fast?

I've never seen X Files so I'll take your word for it but "Heroes" went to pure garbage about mid way through Season 2.

[Rodney Farva]

twin peaks. first season might have been the best thing ever shown on tv, if you were open to it. after that it was absolutely and completely shit.

[Frank the Tank]

Agree on all three, but X-Files was so good for so long, whereas Heroes and Twin Peaks essentially had only one good season each, and therefore classify more as flukes in my book. X-Files' failure was necessary though so that future shows like Lost could credibly claim that they needed to set an end date to the show well in advance. Spinning out story lines indefinitely is a recipe for disaster.

[Rodney Farva]

Agree on all three, but X-Files was so good for so long, whereas Heroes and Twin Peaks essentially had only one good season each, and therefore classify more as flukes in my book. X-Files' failure was necessary though so that future shows like Lost could credibly claim that they needed to set an end date to the show well in advance. Spinning out story lines indefinitely is a recipe for disaster.

part of the genius of the origiinal UK version of the office (and similar story with some other british series) was they did two short seasons and a christmas special and then quit because they didn't want to stay too long at the party.

[dlpin]

I've never seen X Files so I'll take your word for it but "Heroes" went to pure garbage about mid way through Season 2.

I think my choice of words was a bit off: I didn't mean it became rubbish so fast in the sense of becoming rubbish early on. I think "suddenly" is a better choice of words. Seasons 1 through 7 were phenomenally good. Season 8 and 9 were utter rubbish.

Just so you have an idea, here's a bit of what happened from seasons 1-7 then 8-9 (I am not going to put spoiler tags because it's been 8 years):





From seasons 1-7, there is a fairly consistent story: aliens inhabited the earth before humans, in the form of a black oil virus. They created life on earth and created all religions. Starting in the 40s they came back and started a conspiracy with a group of humans. They want to come back and colonize the planet. The humans help them out in creating a human-alien hybrid that would serve as a slave race. But the conspiracy, besides self preservation, is also about gaining time so they create a vaccine for the black oil virus that would stop colonization. This creates all sorts of interesting scenarios on whether to help or stop the conspiracy.

Season 8 and 9 makes a complete mockery of these things. Scully has a miraculous pregnancy after sleeping with Mulder, and her baby is "the one." A baby that prophecies foretold would lead the alien colonization, or, if Mulder was still alive, lead the resistance to colonization. So every week people switched alliances, double and triple crossed each other, etc. One week when Mulder is about to die the resistance to colonization wants to kill the baby, the next when he is alive they want to save the baby, and so on. . The final has Mulder holding a cross and hoping that "something bigger than us" will save us, or some crap like that.

Agree on all three, but X-Files was so good for so long, whereas Heroes and Twin Peaks essentially had only one good season each, and therefore classify more as flukes in my book. X-Files' failure was necessary though so that future shows like Lost could credibly claim that they needed to set an end date to the show well in advance. Spinning out story lines indefinitely is a recipe for disaster.

I think you are exactly right on why this happened. They were fox's most watched show for a long time, and so they decided to keep dragging the series on. But the problem with that is that if you just keep building the aliens up for so long, it becomes impossible to defeat them without these religious references. I mean, by the end the aliens were supersoldiers that could not be destroyed and that could instantly complete rebuild themselves from a single vertebrae.

[Dthefritz]

twin peaks. first season might have been the best thing ever shown on tv, if you were open to it. after that it was absolutely and completely shit.

I think that's an overstatement, even though the majority are in your camp. Season 2 had about 5 or 6 episodes of dead air in the middle, mostly due to the interminable Lucy's baby plotline, James on the road and Nadine inexplicably gaining super powers. The rest of it was fine.

[Bricks]

twin peaks. first season might have been the best thing ever shown on tv, if you were open to it. after that it was absolutely and completely shit.

I think that's an overstatement, even though the majority are in your camp. Season 2 had about 5 or 6 episodes of dead air in the middle, mostly due to the interminable Lucy's baby plotline, James on the road and Nadine inexplicably gaining super powers. The rest of it was fine.

Like much of Lynch's work, I watched Twin Peaks (on DVD about 5 years ago, not the original run ) and thought "...what the fuck is happening?"

[chrisco]

twin peaks. first season might have been the best thing ever shown on tv, if you were open to it. after that it was absolutely and completely shit.

I think that's an overstatement, even though the majority are in your camp. Season 2 had about 5 or 6 episodes of dead air in the middle, mostly due to the interminable Lucy's baby plotline, James on the road and Nadine inexplicably gaining super powers. The rest of it was fine.

Like much of Lynch's work, I watched Twin Peaks (on DVD about 5 years ago, not the original run ) and thought "...what the fuck is happening?"

Was Audrey's run as a strung out whore in One Eyed Jacks in season two? I got that show on DVD and should give it a rewatch.

[Colonel Angus]

the chick from the show 'my boys' is hot...too bad that show sucks donkey balls

It really does. I watched it last year because Jim Gaffigan was in it. My wife told me he wasn't in it anymore so I said I wasn't watching it anymore. But she said I needed to watch the most recent episode because I would find it funny because they all got high. So I watched it today.

It was fucking terrible. I told her that not only had the writers obviously never been high themselves, but it didn't appear they had even been around someone who was high.

The writing on that show is dreadful.

[White Lightning]

the chick from the show 'my boys' is hot...too bad that show sucks donkey balls

It really does. I watched it last year because Jim Gaffigan was in it. My wife told me he wasn't in it anymore so I said I wasn't watching it anymore. But she said I needed to watch the most recent episode because I would find it funny because they all got high. So I watched it today.

It was fucking terrible. I told her that not only had the writers obviously never been high themselves, but it didn't appear they had even been around someone who was high.

The writing on that show is dreadful.

My Boys always seems like it should be good. It has funny people on it (Jim Gaffigan and Jamie Kaler particularly but the others aren't bad) and I like sports, so I should like it. But, it just doesn't work. I think the problem is focusing on the girl (which they kind of have to do because that is the point of the show). It seems like should be a lot better than it is.

[BostonSucksMyBalls]

I dont think its that bad. Its not good but its not terrible

[Dthefritz]

twin peaks. first season might have been the best thing ever shown on tv, if you were open to it. after that it was absolutely and completely shit.

I think that's an overstatement, even though the majority are in your camp. Season 2 had about 5 or 6 episodes of dead air in the middle, mostly due to the interminable Lucy's baby plotline, James on the road and[img] Nadine inexplicably gaining super powers. The rest of it was fine.

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Like much of Lynch's work, I watched Twin Peaks (on DVD about 5 years ago, not the original run ) and thought "...what the fuck is happening?"

Was Audrey's run as a strung out whore in One Eyed Jacks in season two? I got that show on DVD and should give it a rewatch.

That was towards the beginning of season two IIRC.

For those of you who don't have the dvd's you can watch the full series here.
http://www.fancast.com/tv/Twin-Peaks/9367/full-episodes

Sherilynn Fenn, who played Audrey, was seriously hot. It's to the great shame of our nation that she didn't have a bigger career. (or you know, dive headfirst into the pr0n industry).

[Clayton Bigsby]

the chick from the show 'my boys' is hot...too bad that show sucks donkey balls

It really does. I watched it last year because Jim Gaffigan was in it. My wife told me he wasn't in it anymore so I said I wasn't watching it anymore. But she said I needed to watch the most recent episode because I would find it funny because they all got high. So I watched it today.

It was fucking terrible. I told her that not only had the writers obviously never been high themselves, but it didn't appear they had even been around someone who was high.

You put her in her fucking place.

[Colonel Angus]

the chick from the show 'my boys' is hot...too bad that show sucks donkey balls

It really does. I watched it last year because Jim Gaffigan was in it. My wife told me he wasn't in it anymore so I said I wasn't watching it anymore. But she said I needed to watch the most recent episode because I would find it funny because they all got high. So I watched it today.

It was fucking terrible. I told her that not only had the writers obviously never been high themselves, but it didn't appear they had even been around someone who was high.

You put her in her fucking place.

Obviously she's never been high either.

As much as I hated Pineapple Express, it was clear that whoever wrote it had smoked a lot of weed. Rogen and Franco's dialogue was very realistic. This episode of "My Boys" was like an after-school special about the dangers of eating pot brownies.

[Bricks]

the chick from the show 'my boys' is hot...too bad that show sucks donkey balls

It really does. I watched it last year because Jim Gaffigan was in it. My wife told me he wasn't in it anymore so I said I wasn't watching it anymore. But she said I needed to watch the most recent episode because I would find it funny because they all got high. So I watched it today.

It was fucking terrible. I told her that not only had the writers obviously never been high themselves, but it didn't appear they had even been around someone who was high.

You put her in her fucking place.

Obviously she's never been high either.

As much as I hated Pineapple Express, it was clear that whoever wrote it had smoked a lot of weed. Rogen and Franco's dialogue was very realistic. This episode of "My Boys" was like an after-school special about the dangers of eating pot brownies.

We know firsthand the horrors of tripping on pot.