Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby Chuck » 01 May 2006, 08:30

Sabonis would have been a great player in the League had he come to the States as a younger man. He showed enough flashes of brilliance as an old-ass man to warrant this belief.


No doubt, but that doesnt make him tough.

I saw him break down and cry after a beating by shaq and in my book that makes him so soft I want to fuck him up the ass, all 7'4" of him.
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Postby Theny » 01 May 2006, 08:32

Chuck wrote:that makes him so soft I want to fuck him up the ass, all 7'4" of him.


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Postby DirtDawg » 01 May 2006, 08:32

A lot of these Euro players are soft.

Dirk, Peja, Arvydas Sa-bone-is, Drazen Petrovic ,etc.

Tony Parker and Manu are pretty tough though.
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Postby Briandong79 » 01 May 2006, 08:35

DirtDawg wrote:A lot of these Euro players are soft.

Dirk, Peja, Arvydas Sa-bone-is, Drazen Petrovic ,etc.

Tony Parker and Manu are pretty tough though.


I hope and pray that you're making a joke, or at least a reference to Simmons' fucking this up last year.
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Postby Theny » 01 May 2006, 08:35

DirtDawg wrote:Tony Parker and Manu are pretty tough though.


They're tough in that they get back up whenever anyone knocks them down, but they're still pussies to the highest degree. You think San Antonio would win a fight against any team in the league? Hell no.

ETA: BD, Manu may not be technically a Euro, but we all know he is. He's the best flopper since Vlade Divac.
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Postby DirtDawg » 01 May 2006, 08:40

I guess my sarcasm didn't come through clearly.

I thought it'd be obvious with the Drazen Petrovic reference.

That cat is *real* soft these days, where the worms are having a Yugoslavian buffet in his casket.
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Postby Chuck » 01 May 2006, 09:11

My man Francisco Elson is pretty tough, getting into KG face and all...knocking him down and calling KG gay
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Postby Rodney Farva » 28 Oct 2006, 15:42

this thread seemed about as good a place as any to put this. apologize for writing a book.

saw in the paper today that fenerbahce was playing at besiktas, presumably in men's hoops. check for tickets on the internets, and find out it was chick's hoops. ugh. thought what the hell, it was free, would kill an evening, the farvlette would enjoy it and maybe the boy would as well. there was a men's game preceeding it, but apparently the idea of an entire turkish pro basketball multi-gender doubleheader didn't hold the same cachet with the rest of the family farva as it did for me.

we get to the arena during second half of men's game, to find a few dozen random turks milling around outside and the sound of a game going on, but nobody working the ticket windows. ask a guard in my incredibly limited turkish, "ticket where?" and i think he told me something along the lines of, "sold out, fuckwad, try showing up earlier next time." we ask somebody coming out how much time is left, and he tells us 10 minutes. we figure we'll linger out in the parking lot (fun!) until men's game is over, most people will leave then, and that will be our cue to go in for the chick game. my son is whining and ready to cry, when my wife, whose turkish is a lot better than mine, asks another security guard. for some reason her turkish and a blubbering little blond boy convince him to walk us around to the back entrance and bring us in, for free (so long as we promise to root for besiktas, the home team). even though they said it was sold out, there were at least a hundred empty seats, and the entire bleacher section behind one hoop was roped off for some reason and also empty.

we saw the last seven minutes or so. great atmosphere, rowdy fans singing and waving banners and making a lot of noise. lots of cops with riot gear, just in case. arena has about 2,000 seats, so like a smaller college gym. besiktas is one of the long-standing big 3 football teams here, and like the others also has teams in other sports, so they are guaranteed something of a rabid fan base for the more minor sports.

hard for me to gauge the level of play for the men. wasn't dirty but seemed pretty physical, though that might be because sitting relatively close to the court in a small arena. the visitors were efes pilsen (sponsored by and named after the leading domestic beer), traditionally one of the top 2 or 3 turkish hoops teams. besiktas won comfortably, but efes rallied late to make it interesting. efes had a few impressive looking big men who seemed athletic and quick, and not too soft (get them in against, say, shaq and it could be different, though).

each team is allowed 3 or 4 foreigners, usually americans but also some from the former yugoslavia. i looked up who the americans were after i got home. drew nicholas (ex-Maryland Terp) led Efes' comeback with 3 or 4 clutch threes, and besiktas' best player was a point named aubrey reese, who has bounced around europe and the various us minor leagues since playing at murray state. besiktas' center was a guy from villanova named brooks sales (didn't look that impressive), and they also have jamel thomas from providence (i believe he's sebastian telfair's older brother) but he was in warmups but not playing, i think he's injured.

marcus haislip and horace jenkins played for efes, but both didn't see the floor during the time we were there (last 7 minutes of increasingly close game), and neither had fouled out or looked injured. haislip was, what, the 12th pick in the freaking draft a few years ago! hope he watched his money.

the chick game (besiktas-fenerbahce) was, well, typical women's hoops. during warmups you're surprised by the fact they seem to knock down 3s easily and seem surprisingly athletic. then the game starts and it's a shitty back and forth battle of turnovers and shitty shooting. amazingly bad refs, who helped home team come from 20 down to lose by only 1. neither team could hit a free throw at the end, ugh.

i check later, and each team had three or four current WNBA players, and a lot of the others play for the national team here which is apparently one of the better ones in europe. we were sitting near some american women from another pro turkish team, and they told us the turkish league is one of the top women's leagues in europe. jeebus.

cappy poindexter (rutgers, was one of the top wnba scorers last year) was far and away the best player on the floor. sheri sam, the only other player who's name i recognized, was not very good. there was one big beasty american woman who really scared me.

i would like to come back to see another men's game, though i have a sense we're more likely to come back for more exciting ladies' hoops action. woo hoo.
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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby Rodney Farva » 11 May 2008, 08:00

i'm watching a russian pro hoops game (i'm stuck in a hotel in tajikistan and nothing else worth watching is on). at halftime they showed highlights from arvydas sabonas's career before he went to the US. granted, they're only showing the best stuff, but holy shit, he was a fucking beast! really athletic, quick, agile, nothing like the heavy old guy with sawdust for knees who played for portland (and wasn't so bad there).

daniel ewing just dribbled the ball off his own foot and lost it out of bounds. ha ha dookie.
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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby Prez » 12 May 2008, 09:14

Rodney Farva on 10/28/06 wrote:...a lot of stuff that was too long to read


Rodney Farva on 5/11/08 wrote:i'm watching a russian pro hoops game (i'm stuck in a hotel in tajikistan and nothing else worth watching is on). at halftime they showed highlights from arvydas sabonas's career before he went to the US. granted, they're only showing the best stuff, but holy shit, he was a fucking beast! really athletic, quick, agile, nothing like the heavy old guy with sawdust for knees who played for portland (and wasn't so bad there).

daniel ewing just dribbled the ball off his own foot and lost it out of bounds. ha ha dookie.


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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby fassade » 13 May 2008, 12:48

If Sabonis was soft, it was because he did think he was tough enough to come over when he had the chance. When Soviet-era players were allowed out, Sabonis decided he was not ready for the everyday pounding of the NBA, and decided to stay in Europe a while longer to build up his body. Unfortunately, he tore his Achilles, then had some other ankle and knee injuries, and was not the same player by the time he came over to the NBA. He was not that soft by the time he arrived here, but, by then, he had lost almost all of his mobility. The pre-injury Sabonis could have been on those Drexler/Porter/Kersey Blazer of the early 90s -- that would have made a great Bulls-Blazers rivalry for a few years.
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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby PornoGil » 10 Apr 2012, 12:21

Tuff:

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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby BostonSucksMyBalls » 10 Apr 2012, 13:11

PornoGil wrote:Tuff:

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Do you have a vested interest in how Dork Elvis does with the Rockets?
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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby PornoGil » 10 Apr 2012, 13:23

BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
PornoGil wrote:Tuff:

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<3 this guy.


Do you have a vested interest in how Dork Elvis does with the Rockets?

I do not. But I have enjoyed watching his team over the past month, with Dragic running point and my hero Marcus Camby in the mix. Not to mention Coach Kevin. They'd be one of my league pass teams [/Sporty] if I had league pass.
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Re: Toughest and Softest International Ballers

Postby Gregs Kite » 10 Apr 2012, 21:00

PornoGil wrote:
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
PornoGil wrote:Tuff:

Image

<3 this guy.


Do you have a vested interest in how Dork Elvis does with the Rockets?

I do not. But I have enjoyed watching his team over the past month, with Dragic running point and my hero Marcus Camby in the mix. Not to mention Coach Kevin. They'd be one of my league pass teams [/Sporty] if I had league pass.


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