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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby the cheese » 15 May 2017, 09:47

God damn it do i hate when i agree with gregs completely.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby TVF wannabe » 15 May 2017, 09:59

I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby chrisco » 15 May 2017, 10:01

TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby Briandong79 » 15 May 2017, 10:04

chrisco wrote:
TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.


How can you adjust batting average for plate appearances? That's literally one of the parts of the equation.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby TVF wannabe » 15 May 2017, 10:05

chrisco wrote:
TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.


yes, 3.1 hits per 10 at bats as opposed to 2.8.

ETA Enron was a band box too and the Astro lineup was pretty solid as well.
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Re: The New York Yankees

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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby chrisco » 15 May 2017, 10:14

Briandong79 wrote:
chrisco wrote:
TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.


How can you adjust batting average for plate appearances? That's literally one of the parts of the equation.


Hits dong, hits. Sorry if a post meant to gently troll TVF was not crystal clear in its components.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby JT99 » 15 May 2017, 10:21

chrisco wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:
chrisco wrote:
TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.


How can you adjust batting average for plate appearances? That's literally one of the parts of the equation.


Hits dong, hits. Sorry if a post meant to gently troll TVF was not crystal clear in its components.


If Jeets hit 310 and Biggio hit 285, there's no amount of adjusting plate appearances that is going to help.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby TheWolf » 15 May 2017, 10:28

JT99 wrote:
chrisco wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:
chrisco wrote:
TVF wannabe wrote:I hate when "I'm forced" to argue sides I don't care too but Jeter and his 310 average with 3500 hits was not Biggio and his 285 with 3050 hits.

Can we get those stats adjusted for plate appearances? I'll keep this stupid argument going by saying that Jeets got more ABs because he played in a bandbox and batted in a billion dollar lineup. I won't check that fact at all, just use it to drag you into a never ending vortex.


How can you adjust batting average for plate appearances? That's literally one of the parts of the equation.


Hits dong, hits. Sorry if a post meant to gently troll TVF was not crystal clear in its components.


If Jeets hit 310 and Biggio hit 285, there's no amount of adjusting plate appearances that is going to help.


But for the record... Jeter had about 100 more PAs in about 100 less games.

Is it even still cool to use batting average to compare hitters? I don't know if it is. Do the stat nerds like on-base percentage more? I do, if for no other reason than it helps to make Jeter look a little less impressive. .310 vs. .285 is a big difference. .377 vs. .363 is much more comparable.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby SouthernYokel » 15 May 2017, 10:29

biggio got all those walks from leaning over the plate like a psychopath too, that's a bonus in his column.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby Briandong79 » 15 May 2017, 10:36

The 6th all time in hits thing is still very impressive to me. And then I was scanning the top guys and found THE comparison. If not in NYC, Jeter would be Paul Molitor.
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby paje » 15 May 2017, 11:04

Per baseball-reference.com

Similarity Scores

Explanation of Similarity Scores

Similar Batters
1.Craig Biggio (825.2) *
2.Paul Molitor (798.6) *
3.Robin Yount (793.7) *
4.Roberto Alomar (752.4) *
5.Charlie Gehringer (729.0) *
6.Cal Ripken (720.1) *
7.Joe Morgan (700.5) *
8.Ivan Rodriguez (700.4) *
9.Johnny Damon (695.3)
10.Eddie Collins (695.0) *

Most Similar by Ages
22. Joe Sewell (969.7) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
23. Joe Sewell (966.4) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
24. Joe Cronin (943.9) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
25. Joe Cronin (924.1) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
26. Hanley Ramirez (910.0) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
27. Travis Jackson (897.8 ) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
28. Travis Jackson (899.2) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
29. Alan Trammell (905.2) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
30. Alan Trammell (901.8 ) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
31. Alan Trammell (877.7) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
32. Roberto Alomar (877.5) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
33. Roberto Alomar (884.4) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
34. Roberto Alomar (883.2) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
35. Roberto Alomar (868.4) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
36. Roberto Alomar (869.0) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
37. Craig Biggio (786.8 ) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
38. Craig Biggio (778.9) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
39. Craig Biggio (818.0) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
40. Craig Biggio (814.7) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby TVF wannabe » 15 May 2017, 11:05

most similar by age doesn't do much for me, who's "most similar" to Bonds at 42?

ETA it's Willie Mays but some of the years it was Shawn Green
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby bosux » 16 May 2017, 16:00

y'all haters would wear the fuck out of his shersey if he played for yalls teams...jealous cunts
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Re: The New York Yankees

Postby The Long Dick of the Law » 16 May 2017, 16:31

Nope, I wear the jersey of the guy who moved positions to help the team
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