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Postby Iron Mike Sharpe » 09 Apr 2012, 13:25

St. Louis shaking up the chess landscape in ARE country.

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Re: Chess

Postby ONTB » 09 Apr 2012, 13:36

What a thread!
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Re: Chess

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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 10 Apr 2012, 05:51

Polgar is as close as you're going to get to a star in chess. She provided a lot of the game commentary for HBO's Bobby Fischer documentary. Most great players have trouble discussing chess in a way that doesn't alienate casual players, but she sounds like a normal well-adjusted human being.
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Re: Chess

Postby Briandong79 » 26 Feb 2013, 14:52

I am reading Nate Silver's book and he has a chapter on chess, and he said that there are so many variations of where the pieces on the board can wind up that if you play a long enough game, there is a decent enough chance (he didn't put a specific number on it) that no other board in the history of chess has had that exact same configuration. That absolutely blew my mind, that can't be correct, can it?
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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 26 Feb 2013, 15:30

Briandong79 wrote:I am reading Nate Silver's book and he has a chapter on chess, and he said that there are so many variations of where the pieces on the board can wind up that if you play a long enough game, there is a decent enough chance (he didn't put a specific number on it) that no other board in the history of chess has had that exact same configuration. That absolutely blew my mind, that can't be correct, can it?


It can be true. The problem is the moves aren't really random. There are twenty different first moves for white, and another twenty first moves for black. So, one move in you've already got 400 different positions possible. That number grows at a really rapid clip in a similar fashion, but gets harder to calculate. However, even though you've got 400 different positions you're really only going to see, oh, a dozen or so of those, and four of them (e2-e4 e7-e5, e2-e4 c7-c5, d2-d4 d7-d5, and d2-d4 Ng8-f6) make up roughly 90% (total guess) of grandmaster games. However, if two rank amateurs are playing each other, especially if they don't have a lot of captured pieces, and the game goes 70 moves, there's a great chance that at least one of the ensuing board positions is unique in history.
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Re: Chess

Postby Dunking Donut » 26 Feb 2013, 15:37

Frank the Tank wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:I am reading Nate Silver's book and he has a chapter on chess, and he said that there are so many variations of where the pieces on the board can wind up that if you play a long enough game, there is a decent enough chance (he didn't put a specific number on it) that no other board in the history of chess has had that exact same configuration. That absolutely blew my mind, that can't be correct, can it?


It can be true. The problem is the moves aren't really random. There are twenty different first moves for white, and another twenty first moves for black. So, one move in you've already got 400 different positions possible. That number grows at a really rapid clip in a similar fashion, but gets harder to calculate. However, even though you've got 400 different positions you're really only going to see, oh, a dozen or so of those, and four of them (e2-e4 e7-e5, e2-e4 c7-c5, d2-d4 d7-d5, and d2-d4 Ng8-f6) make up roughly 90% (total guess) of grandmaster games. However, if two rank amateurs are playing each other, especially if they don't have a lot of captured pieces, and the game goes 70 moves, there's a great chance that at least one of the ensuing board positions is unique in history.


I'm curious on how chess compares to Go in this respect. All the pieces move the same board the board is much bigger (19X19, I think). I've found way harder to learn.
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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 26 Feb 2013, 15:42

Dunking Donut wrote:
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Briandong79 wrote:I am reading Nate Silver's book and he has a chapter on chess, and he said that there are so many variations of where the pieces on the board can wind up that if you play a long enough game, there is a decent enough chance (he didn't put a specific number on it) that no other board in the history of chess has had that exact same configuration. That absolutely blew my mind, that can't be correct, can it?


It can be true. The problem is the moves aren't really random. There are twenty different first moves for white, and another twenty first moves for black. So, one move in you've already got 400 different positions possible. That number grows at a really rapid clip in a similar fashion, but gets harder to calculate. However, even though you've got 400 different positions you're really only going to see, oh, a dozen or so of those, and four of them (e2-e4 e7-e5, e2-e4 c7-c5, d2-d4 d7-d5, and d2-d4 Ng8-f6) make up roughly 90% (total guess) of grandmaster games. However, if two rank amateurs are playing each other, especially if they don't have a lot of captured pieces, and the game goes 70 moves, there's a great chance that at least one of the ensuing board positions is unique in history.


I'm curious on how chess compares to Go in this respect. All the pieces move the same board the board is much bigger (19X19, I think). I've found way harder to learn.


I consider myself pretty good at chess #geekbrag, but I can't wrap my head around Go. I love it, but I suck at it. There's no moving pieces (except for captured stones) so the total number of positions is close to 361 factorial (361!). That's not the real correct number because some of those positions go away because a stone placed on that point would automatically die and some positions re-open after stones are captured. However it gives you an idea of how mind-numbingly complex that game is. You can get pretty far in chess with tactical skills, but Go requires such deep strategies it's ridiculous. There's some of the same thing with Go in that the number of potential positions is so much bigger than the number of positions you'd see two good players take.

God I am such a fucking nerd.
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Re: Chess

Postby babylurch » 26 Feb 2013, 15:50

Frank the Tank wrote:
Dunking Donut wrote:
Frank the Tank wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:I am reading Nate Silver's book and he has a chapter on chess, and he said that there are so many variations of where the pieces on the board can wind up that if you play a long enough game, there is a decent enough chance (he didn't put a specific number on it) that no other board in the history of chess has had that exact same configuration. That absolutely blew my mind, that can't be correct, can it?


It can be true. The problem is the moves aren't really random. There are twenty different first moves for white, and another twenty first moves for black. So, one move in you've already got 400 different positions possible. That number grows at a really rapid clip in a similar fashion, but gets harder to calculate. However, even though you've got 400 different positions you're really only going to see, oh, a dozen or so of those, and four of them (e2-e4 e7-e5, e2-e4 c7-c5, d2-d4 d7-d5, and d2-d4 Ng8-f6) make up roughly 90% (total guess) of grandmaster games. However, if two rank amateurs are playing each other, especially if they don't have a lot of captured pieces, and the game goes 70 moves, there's a great chance that at least one of the ensuing board positions is unique in history.


I'm curious on how chess compares to Go in this respect. All the pieces move the same board the board is much bigger (19X19, I think). I've found way harder to learn.


I consider myself pretty good at chess #geekbrag, but I can't wrap my head around Go. I love it, but I suck at it. There's no moving pieces (except for captured stones) so the total number of positions is close to 361 factorial (361!). That's not the real correct number because some of those positions go away because a stone placed on that point would automatically die and some positions re-open after stones are captured. However it gives you an idea of how mind-numbingly complex that game is. You can get pretty far in chess with tactical skills, but Go requires such deep strategies it's ridiculous. There's some of the same thing with Go in that the number of potential positions is so much bigger than the number of positions you'd see two good players take.

God I am such a fucking nerd.


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Re: Chess

Postby Mario Speedwagon » 28 Apr 2014, 04:26

Attention Chess Goons: I’m looking for a free, good chess app for iPhone. Does anyone have one?

I just want to play against the computer, but want to be able to keep a w/l record.

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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 30 Apr 2014, 09:18

Mario Speedwagon wrote:Attention Chess Goons: I’m looking for a free, good chess app for iPhone. Does anyone have one?

I just want to play against the computer, but want to be able to keep a w/l record.

TYIA.


I enjoy Shredder Chess. It's $8 in the US App Store, but it's got good analytical features, you can vary its strength pretty accurately, and it has a pretty deep opening library.
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Re: Chess

Postby Iron Mike Sharpe » 03 Sep 2014, 15:55

Big chess tourney coming to Planet Hollywood casino in Vegas.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17 ... -las-vegas
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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 04 Sep 2014, 09:09

Iron Mike Sharpe wrote:Big chess tourney coming to Planet Hollywood casino in Vegas.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17 ... -las-vegas


They have been advertising that like mad in Chess Life magazine, the official magazine of the United States Chess Federation.
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Re: Chess

Postby Mario Speedwagon » 23 Nov 2014, 12:43

Another win for the enfant terrible of chess:

http://rt.com/news/208039-carlsen-anand ... mpionship/

Magnus Carlsen IS profession chess.
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Re: Chess

Postby Frank the Tank » 23 Nov 2014, 13:57

Mario Speedwagon wrote:Another win for the enfant terrible of chess:

http://rt.com/news/208039-carlsen-anand ... mpionship/

Magnus Carlsen IS profession chess.


He's unstoppable. Too bad international chess is so corrupt or it'd be great times for the "sport". You could probably have FIDE and FIFA switch executives and neither would miss a beat.
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