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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 07 Sep 2017, 08:58

So. I play Mj this week. #2 vs. #5. First trip back to the 'shoe for the Sooners since The Kick.

I don't pay attention to non-Big XII-2 football so I'm not going to do a full break down. Let's just have a look at the Sooners.

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I return Baker Mayfield at QB, coming off a pair of great seasons and one hilariously filmed Public Intox arrest / WWE Smackdown. Supposedly Bake has a coke problem, and honestly I see it. You know what he doesn't have a problem with? Hitting his receivers in stride. Making great decisions. Making every throw. Escaping the pressure.


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Going into the opener, the question was does Shake n' Bake have anybody to throw to, considering that Joe Mixon and Dede Westbrook were his best targets last year and both have taken their talents in receiving and woman beating to the next level. We've gone away from the tight end as receiver since Jermaine Gresham and MTM/BSMB-favorite Sam Bradford graduated, but OU has a returning 6'6" 260# TE in Mark Andrews and a true freshman beast named Grant Calcaterra, so you might see some heavy, two TE sets. I'm starting a true-freshman WR named SeeDee Lamb, who did some burning in the opener, a couple random giants, and a Kentucky senior transfer named Jeff Badet. Mj, I'd look for Lamb, Andrews, Badet, and a guy named Jordan Smallwood to make an impact in the passing game.

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Running back is a huge question mark. 97% of our rushing yards left for the NFL and we returned two guys with carries. Abdul Adams looked like just a guy to me last year, but he came out hot in the opener. Caught some balls, hit the holes hard, ran confidently, and caught a few balls. Rodney Anderson hasn't played in two years due to injury, but people say he's good. Marcellius Sutton looks fast. I don't see a game breaker here, which is concerning. Not as concerning, though,

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Because we return a huge line with 8 guys who have significant playing time. Orlando Brown is the headliner at LT. He's definitely an NFL right tackle and if he makes moves this year he's could be a first round talent. Plays on the edge of a 15 yard penalty at all times though. Phil Steele rated me the #1 offensive line in the country this year. It's the only area we have a real advantage.

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Defense is scary. I'm very concerned. I switched back to a 4-3 after a three year 3-4 experiment. We return one guy who has shown the ability to get to the passer, Obo Okaronkwo. We have a bunch of just a guys on the D-Line. We start a true freshman at Mike linebacker, we start a true sophomore at right corner. Obo, Caleb Kelly, Stephen Parker, and Jordan Thomas are the guys to watch on defense.

Special teams are another huge area of concern. Both return spots are new and our punter/kicker is shaky. He's a better punter than kicker. He hasn't made a kick longer than 40 yards in like 16 games. I think he kicked sub 75% of his field goals last year.

New coach, obviously.

Our backup QB is a midget named Kyler who also plays baseball really well. Apparently he is a negro. I did not know this, although I should have because everybody kept saying "he's fast, but he's not just a running quarterback." In my defense, the Venn diagram intersection of black/quarterback/baseball/Kyler is a dot.

This is a bad year to go to the shoe. I think we keep it close, but given the obvious mismatch of my defense against the OSU offense I think Mj wins comfortably.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby JT99 » 07 Sep 2017, 09:05

the cheese wrote:Because we return a huge line with 8 guys who have significant playing time. Orlando Brown is the headliner at LT. He's definitely an NFL right tackle and if he makes moves this year he's could be a first round talent. Plays on the edge of a 15 yard penalty at all times though. Phil Steele rated me the #1 offensive line in the country this year. It's the only area we have a real advantage.


Your real advantage is quite slim, if there at all, as most pundits have tOSU's defensive line either #1 or #2 in the country (Clemson is the other).

The Buckeyes biggest issue in the opener was the corners not hanging. Given Mayfield's abilities, you should hit some big plays down the field.

The offense still doesn't hum like I think that it should, therefore, I think that the -7.5 line that I've seen is a bit aggressive.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 07 Sep 2017, 09:23

JT99 wrote:
the cheese wrote:Because we return a huge line with 8 guys who have significant playing time. Orlando Brown is the headliner at LT. He's definitely an NFL right tackle and if he makes moves this year he's could be a first round talent. Plays on the edge of a 15 yard penalty at all times though. Phil Steele rated me the #1 offensive line in the country this year. It's the only area we have a real advantage.


Your real advantage is quite slim, if there at all, as most pundits have tOSU's defensive line either #1 or #2 in the country (Clemson is the other).

The Buckeyes biggest issue in the opener was the corners not hanging. Given Mayfield's abilities, you should hit some big plays down the field.

The offense still doesn't hum like I think that it should, therefore, I think that the -7.5 line that I've seen is a bit aggressive.


I agree re: your statement on the offensive line v. defensive line battle. I think you should be able to get a read on this game by watching the first two or three OU series. If the O-line can hold up and OU can get positive yardage out of the run and Mayfield has enough time to throw, I think OU has a chance. If Mayfield plays under pressure and there's no running game early, OU loses in a route.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby mj3528 » 07 Sep 2017, 09:42

the cheese wrote:
JT99 wrote:
the cheese wrote:Because we return a huge line with 8 guys who have significant playing time. Orlando Brown is the headliner at LT. He's definitely an NFL right tackle and if he makes moves this year he's could be a first round talent. Plays on the edge of a 15 yard penalty at all times though. Phil Steele rated me the #1 offensive line in the country this year. It's the only area we have a real advantage.


Your real advantage is quite slim, if there at all, as most pundits have tOSU's defensive line either #1 or #2 in the country (Clemson is the other).

The Buckeyes biggest issue in the opener was the corners not hanging. Given Mayfield's abilities, you should hit some big plays down the field.

The offense still doesn't hum like I think that it should, therefore, I think that the -7.5 line that I've seen is a bit aggressive.


I agree re: your statement on the offensive line v. defensive line battle. I think you should be able to get a read on this game by watching the first two or three OU series. If the O-line can hold up and OU can get positive yardage out of the run and Mayfield has enough time to throw, I think OU has a chance. If Mayfield plays under pressure and there's no running game early, OU loses in a route.


First drive against Ohio state means nothing. Recently teams can move the ball early and the d clamps down. Uem explained to me why once.

I think Ohio state's d-line eventually overwhelms the sooner line. Ohio state plays like 12 guys.

If Oklahoma can't stop Ohio state's running game they will have no chance. Have to make jt beat you, but if Ohio state doesn't really need to throw much that won't help.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 07 Sep 2017, 09:43

mj3528 wrote:
the cheese wrote:
JT99 wrote:
the cheese wrote:Because we return a huge line with 8 guys who have significant playing time. Orlando Brown is the headliner at LT. He's definitely an NFL right tackle and if he makes moves this year he's could be a first round talent. Plays on the edge of a 15 yard penalty at all times though. Phil Steele rated me the #1 offensive line in the country this year. It's the only area we have a real advantage.


Your real advantage is quite slim, if there at all, as most pundits have tOSU's defensive line either #1 or #2 in the country (Clemson is the other).

The Buckeyes biggest issue in the opener was the corners not hanging. Given Mayfield's abilities, you should hit some big plays down the field.

The offense still doesn't hum like I think that it should, therefore, I think that the -7.5 line that I've seen is a bit aggressive.


I agree re: your statement on the offensive line v. defensive line battle. I think you should be able to get a read on this game by watching the first two or three OU series. If the O-line can hold up and OU can get positive yardage out of the run and Mayfield has enough time to throw, I think OU has a chance. If Mayfield plays under pressure and there's no running game early, OU loses in a route.


First drive against Ohio state means nothing. Recently teams can move the ball early and the d clamps down. Jen explained to me why once.

I think Ohio state's d-line eventually overwhelms the sooner line. Ohio state plays like 12 guys.

If Oklahoma can't stop Ohio state's running game they will have no chance. Have to make it beat you, but if Ohio state doesn't really need to throw much that won't help.


Yeah, we fucked then. Mike Stoops can't stop mobile QBs, young linebacker corps is bad.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 11 Sep 2017, 13:09

I watched the game with my buddy who works for one of the two sports talk stations in town and found out the story of why Bob Stoops' retirement was so hastily thrown together this summer.

Apparently Bob's daughter, a sophomore at OU, is dating a guy who owns a clothing store / bar. He's old. In his 30s. My buddy does woodworking on the side and built a bunch of displays for a new store this guy is opening. It's good looking stuff. Anyway, she gets drunk over the summer and tells him while they were at another bar that her dad is going to retire in a couple weeks. Her boyfriend asks one of his friends, an Oklahoma City sports talk host and former sports TV guy, if he's heard this. He says no, but kicks it to another guy at the station, who also runs the OU Rivals site and is actually pretty good friends with both Bob and Mike Stoops. This is the day before the retirement. The Rivals guy calls Bob and asks if this is true. Bob says yeah, but please hold it for a minute so I can tell the team. While this is happening, somebody starts posting about this on the message board component of the Rivals site, which the Rivals guy tries to delete. Unfortunately, Berry Tramel, the Daily Oklahoman's lead columnist who is older than dirt and hated by Russell Westbrook, sees this on the Rivals site and writes a column for the Oklahoman's website the day of the resignation. He refuses to pull the column down so they end up doing everything on the day of the resignation in the rushed manner that everybody saw.

Stoops hasn't spoken to Tramel since then.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby The Long Dick of the Law » 11 Sep 2017, 13:16

Was that Stoops' daughter next to him in the box? She can get it anytime she wants
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 11 Sep 2017, 13:20

The Long Dick of the Law wrote:Was that Stoops' daughter next to him in the box? She can get it anytime she wants


Yes. Carol Stoops has gotten better with age.

Unfortunately his daughter's instagram, facebook, and twitter are all locked down. My buddy's baby sitter, who is also a Tri-Delt, apparently says she's a hot mess.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby Briandong79 » 11 Sep 2017, 15:53

Can't believe Mayfield apologized. Seemed like a message to NFL front offices, "I promise I'm not Johnny Football 2.0."
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby God Shamgod » 11 Sep 2017, 19:05

Briandong79 wrote:Can't believe Mayfield apologized. Seemed like a message to NFL front offices, "I promise I'm not Johnny Football 2.0."


He totally is.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 12 Sep 2017, 08:22

God Shamgod wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:Can't believe Mayfield apologized. Seemed like a message to NFL front offices, "I promise I'm not Johnny Football 2.0."


He totally is.


He's better in the pocket than Manziel ever was, he doesn't have JFF's obvious mental illness or behavioral issues, and he's doing what he's doing without anyone near Mike Evans in skill or ability....but yeah, he's Manziel 2.0.



OR MAYBE HE'S BREES/WILSON BUT NOT A FUCKING EVANGELICAL ROBOT.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby SouthernYokel » 12 Sep 2017, 08:24

Congrats on the win, i was happy with that one obviously. someone should have sharpened the flag stick so it stuck in the turf.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby the cheese » 12 Sep 2017, 08:31

SouthernYokel wrote:Congrats on the win, i was happy with that one obviously. someone should have sharpened the flag stick so it stuck in the turf.


Thanks, I played hard, had a good game plan, trusted my team and my coaches, and drank like a champion.


Total cost of this weekend, in excess of alcohol and food for the watch party:

Carpet cleaning to remove vomit from bedroom floor: $127
New key to the wife's car: $200.

Neat.
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Re: THIS...is Oklahoma Football: The OU Thread

Postby CourtesyFlush » 12 Sep 2017, 08:34

the cheese wrote:
SouthernYokel wrote:Congrats on the win, i was happy with that one obviously. someone should have sharpened the flag stick so it stuck in the turf.


Thanks, I played hard, had a good game plan, trusted my team and my coaches, and drank like a champion.


Total cost of this weekend, in excess of alcohol and food for the watch party:

Carpet cleaning to remove vomit from bedroom floor: $127
New key to the wife's car: $200.

Neat.

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