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Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 10 Nov 2017, 17:33
by Dthefritz
Gregs Kite wrote:


Isn't Flair and old, decrepit, broke mess now? How was it glorifying anything?

Well without having seen the doc or read the article, it comes down to the age old question: does Scarface glorify drug dealing in spite of Tony Montana's fate? Or are people who watch it just morons?

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 10 Nov 2017, 18:15
by Iron Mike Sharpe
The doc didn't glorify his behavior at all. Heck, HHH said basically everything Flair says is a lie and he uses him as an example to the newbies as what not to do with yourself outside of the ring.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 13 Nov 2017, 10:56
by mister bacon
Dthefritz wrote:
Gregs Kite wrote:


Isn't Flair and old, decrepit, broke mess now? How was it glorifying anything?

Well without having seen the doc or read the article, it comes down to the age old question: does Scarface glorify drug dealing in spite of Tony Montana's fate? Or are people who watch it just morons?


or it could be the purest distillation of the nihilism at the center of modern capitalism and American urban pop culture. maybe the question is why do so many cultural tastemakers admire and identify with a character that fully exploits capitalism while standing outside of it then dies an early death having reached the pinnacle of having it all? why do so many young kids, especially black and brown kids, expect to die an early death? is their love for the movie a reflection of their own expectation? what does that mean for their choices now? what impact could we have in these communities if we focus on a message that life is worth living. their lives have dignity?


just spitballing.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 13 Nov 2017, 10:59
by SouthernYokel
mister bacon wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
Gregs Kite wrote:


Isn't Flair and old, decrepit, broke mess now? How was it glorifying anything?

Well without having seen the doc or read the article, it comes down to the age old question: does Scarface glorify drug dealing in spite of Tony Montana's fate? Or are people who watch it just morons?


or it could be the purest distillation of the nihilism at the center of modern capitalism and American urban pop culture. maybe the question is why do so many cultural tastemakers admire and identify with a character that fully exploits capitalism while standing outside of it then dies an early death having reached the pinnacle of having it all? why do so many young kids, especially black and brown kids, expect to die an early death? is their love for the movie a reflection of their own expectation? what does that mean for their choices now? what impact could we have in these communities if we focus on a message that life is worth living. their lives have dignity?


just spitballing.


Moonlight won an Oscar but that movie was boring as shit and i'd rather watch Belly. just spitballing

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 13 Nov 2017, 11:04
by mister bacon
SouthernYokel wrote:
mister bacon wrote:
Dthefritz wrote:
Gregs Kite wrote:


Isn't Flair and old, decrepit, broke mess now? How was it glorifying anything?

Well without having seen the doc or read the article, it comes down to the age old question: does Scarface glorify drug dealing in spite of Tony Montana's fate? Or are people who watch it just morons?


or it could be the purest distillation of the nihilism at the center of modern capitalism and American urban pop culture. maybe the question is why do so many cultural tastemakers admire and identify with a character that fully exploits capitalism while standing outside of it then dies an early death having reached the pinnacle of having it all? why do so many young kids, especially black and brown kids, expect to die an early death? is their love for the movie a reflection of their own expectation? what does that mean for their choices now? what impact could we have in these communities if we focus on a message that life is worth living. their lives have dignity?


just spitballing.


Moonlight won an Oscar but that movie was boring as shit and i'd rather watch Belly. just spitballing



belly: the musical directed by Donald Glover tonight on Fox


just spitballing

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2017, 10:56
by CourtesyFlush
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
Iron Mike Sharpe wrote:Well, that was kinda depressing.

That was tremendous. Meh plus+

Some notes:
- good god that Verne Gagne wrestling camp was ridic, specifically the first part with the stairs.
- Charlotte Flair looked hot as hell in her interviews.
- I admire his ability to drink as much as he did/does.
- how much did they pay Hogan to talk so positively about Flair? Lol, sure Jan.

Finally seen it last week. I en joyed it overall as well. The parts about his rise and the interviews with Sting, Steamboat, Jim Ross, etc were my favorite. Loved seeing some of the archival NWA footage. And yeah, he's lived a pretty miserable existence outside of the ring.

Also saw Catholics vs. Convicts. I remember that game really well and Jimmy Johnson electing to go for 2 at the end. Pretty crazy story about the director's buddy who was behind the t-shirt and his involvement with the ND men's basketball team. Solid rec.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 12:27
by Briandong79
Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 13:33
by BostonSucksMyBalls
Briandong79 wrote:Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Sports docs are in my DNA.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 13:50
by Goose
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Sports docs are in my DNA.


My DNA is in this sports doc: The story of Antonio Cromartie's 14 children

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 14:13
by The Long Dick of the Law
Goose wrote:
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Sports docs are in my DNA.


My DNA is in this sports doc: The story of Antonio Cromartie's 14 children

Special commentary from Shawn Kemp

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 18:07
by BigJohnStudd
The Long Dick of the Law wrote:
Goose wrote:
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Sports docs are in my DNA.


My DNA is in this sports doc: The story of Antonio Cromartie's 14 children

Special commentary from Shawn Kemp

This Sports Doc has a DNR: The Len Bias Story.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 22:47
by TheWolf
BigJohnStudd wrote:
The Long Dick of the Law wrote:
Goose wrote:
BostonSucksMyBalls wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:Loved the 30 for 30 podcast on the Wrigley lights. I really want a Wrigley No lights t-shirt now. Very high recommend.

Sports docs are in my DNA.


My DNA is in this sports doc: The story of Antonio Cromartie's 14 children

Special commentary from Shawn Kemp

This Sports Doc has a DNR: The Len Bias Story.


God damn that was funny. I sorta love you sometimes.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 22:49
by Rodney Farva
i need to peep this wrigley doc, i remember it being a hyuge fight when they started having even just a few night games. save me from looking it up, when did they put in permanent lights? do you yungins remember the era when it was day baseball there?

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 23:21
by Iron Mike Sharpe
I remember the early days of cable when it sucked ass. If you were sick from school, only thing worth watching was MTV (same 20 videos repeated) or Cubs day baseball.

Re: 30 for 30 n/k/a ESPN Films

PostPosted: 08 Dec 2017, 03:18
by mj3528
Iron Mike Sharpe wrote:I remember the early days of cable when it sucked ass. If you were sick from school, only thing worth watching was MTV (same 20 videos repeated) or Cubs day baseball.


I remember being sick from school and watching the NFL draft. That happened 2 years in a row. I was an early stooge to the shield i guess