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Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Briandong79 » 06 Feb 2012, 15:23

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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby mj3528 » 06 Feb 2012, 15:37

It would have been a good catch by Welker, but this is not true:

Had Welker hauled that football in, the catch itself would have been on the level of Manningham's tremendous catch that kick-started the winning Giants drive.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Colonel Angus » 06 Feb 2012, 15:40

I agree, mj.

This also is not true:

15. That Didn't Even Crack the Top Five of My "Worst Boston Defeats of My Lifetime" List

Game 6 of the 1986 World Series was worse. Super Bowl XLII was worse. Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was worse. Game 4 of the 1987 NBA Finals was worse. The "Too Many Men on the Ice" game in Montreal was worse.


There is no fucking way any hockey game in history was worse for Simmons than losing that Super Bowl last night. No fucking way.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Bricks » 06 Feb 2012, 15:47

Found the Hoosiers gym tidbit pretty interesting. Would have been cool to see photos from it.

It's hard to overstate how provincial Massachusetts is. There's an "Us Against Them" mentality that's just part of the DNA. You grow up there, you live a full life there, you die there. That's how it's supposed to play out. There's been a local undercurrent for the past few years that Brady thinks he's too good for Boston (because he moved to New York, then California), that he cares too much about being a celebrity, that Gisele made him soft, that he's not really "one of us."


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Pretty good work day time-killer, all in all. It read like an older Simpson column. I liked that he acknowledged his hanging onto the Tyree catch is ridiculous.

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This was a night when you try to keep everything in perspective by going through the checklist of reasons why you shouldn't be depressed — "Are my kids healthy?" (CHECK) "Do I love my significant other?" (CHECK) "Are my parents still alive and healthy?" (CHECK) "Do I like my job?" (CHECK) "Do I have a good group of friends?" (CHECK) — and just by doing that, you feel like the biggest moron on the planet.

I have never been able to answer the question, "Why does this matter to me so much?" That's just the way it's always been. Ever since I can remember. You get older, your life changes, your friends change, your house changes, family members start dying, your kids start morphing into miniature people … and yet, one thing never changes for anyone who truly cares about sports. See, there's no feeling quite like watching your team blowing a big game. It's devastating. It's paralyzing. It's the only feeling that a 6-year-old, a 42-year-old and a 64-year-old can share exactly. You never get over it. You never stop thinking about the three or four plays that could have swung the game. It becomes something of a sports tattoo. You live with it forever, and then you die.


Granted, his rationale also comes from 3 Super Bowls, 2 World Series, 1 NBA Finals and 1 Stanley Cup win for his teams in one decade...but the rest is salient. I have to actively calm myself down when shit happens with my teams, and I know it's ridiculous. But it's like clockwork.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Briandong79 » 06 Feb 2012, 15:56

Colonel Angus wrote:I agree, mj.

This also is not true:

15. That Didn't Even Crack the Top Five of My "Worst Boston Defeats of My Lifetime" List

Game 6 of the 1986 World Series was worse. Super Bowl XLII was worse. Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was worse. Game 4 of the 1987 NBA Finals was worse. The "Too Many Men on the Ice" game in Montreal was worse.


There is no fucking way any hockey game in history was worse for Simmons than losing that Super Bowl last night. No fucking way.


I think he's written about that game before and that it was the first game that was really heartbreaking when he was a kid, so I could see why it would resonate with him. That basically kills his whole hypothesis that the feelings you get from sports at any age are identical, but oh well.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Colonel Angus » 06 Feb 2012, 15:58

Briandong79 wrote:
Colonel Angus wrote:I agree, mj.

This also is not true:

15. That Didn't Even Crack the Top Five of My "Worst Boston Defeats of My Lifetime" List

Game 6 of the 1986 World Series was worse. Super Bowl XLII was worse. Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was worse. Game 4 of the 1987 NBA Finals was worse. The "Too Many Men on the Ice" game in Montreal was worse.


There is no fucking way any hockey game in history was worse for Simmons than losing that Super Bowl last night. No fucking way.


I think he's written about that game before and that it was the first game that was really heartbreaking when he was a kid, so I could see why it would resonate with him. That basically kills his whole hypothesis that the feelings you get from sports at any age are identical, but oh well.


He has written about it, when he was trying to pretend he was an old-school hockey fan. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby bosux » 06 Feb 2012, 16:11

Colonel Angus wrote:
Briandong79 wrote:
Colonel Angus wrote:I agree, mj.

This also is not true:

15. That Didn't Even Crack the Top Five of My "Worst Boston Defeats of My Lifetime" List

Game 6 of the 1986 World Series was worse. Super Bowl XLII was worse. Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was worse. Game 4 of the 1987 NBA Finals was worse. The "Too Many Men on the Ice" game in Montreal was worse.


There is no fucking way any hockey game in history was worse for Simmons than losing that Super Bowl last night. No fucking way.


I think he's written about that game before and that it was the first game that was really heartbreaking when he was a kid, so I could see why it would resonate with him. That basically kills his whole hypothesis that the feelings you get from sports at any age are identical, but oh well.


He has written about it, when he was trying to pretend he was an old-school hockey fan. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now.


but he used to call his buddy wacker every night and gush about the games!
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Prez » 06 Feb 2012, 17:12

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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby skinny pete » 06 Feb 2012, 19:31

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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Gregs Kite » 06 Feb 2012, 20:32

Fuck Noo Yawk. You tell em Billy!
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Dthefritz » 06 Feb 2012, 21:13

Colonel Angus wrote:He has written about it, when he was trying to pretend he was an old-school hockey fan. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now.

I buy it, for the simple reason that when you're that young, you don't realize how uncool hockey is and think it's on the same level as every other sport (unless of course you're in a part of the country where it is). What I'm guessing happened to Simmons is that he went to school in Greenwich and hockey had no social cache, so he abandoned it until his post-college slacker phase where he spent an inordinate amount of time playing nintendo hockey and nursing hangovers. Then when he got a "real job", hockey got the short shrift. This is a pattern I've noticed with a number of people. Of course the "real job" isn't writing about sports for a living in most cases, but still.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby someguysomewhere » 07 Feb 2012, 01:25

Actually thought that was a decent column. Less schtick than usual.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby mister bacon » 07 Feb 2012, 23:02

i too enjoyed this.

mj3528 wrote:It would have been a good catch by Welker, but this is not true:

Had Welker hauled that football in, the catch itself would have been on the level of Manningham's tremendous catch that kick-started the winning Giants drive.


and i agree with you on this. would have been a nice catch, but manningham's was the play of the game. welker's would have been simply making a play he should have made.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby JT99 » 18 Jan 2017, 22:02

Stumbled on to this article today and thought that the tenth question in the interview and the response were fun.

I know we like fun.
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Re: Bill Simmons' Tears

Postby Dthefritz » 18 Jan 2017, 22:17

JT99 wrote:Stumbled on to this article today and thought that the tenth question in the interview and the response were fun.

I know we like fun.

I enjoyed that as well. Millions of dads and imagination-deficient simpletons worship this film, why should the director know or care who Billy is?

I actually like the movie, but can't really see watching it a zillion times and knowing every single line.
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