Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby Private Zod » 06 Mar 2010, 22:36

I admit that I dislike Olberman more than Simmons. However, in the end, it is still 2 New England dousches slap fighting with each other.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby God Shamgod » 07 Mar 2010, 00:14

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ComplexLitigations wrote:Simmons didn't deserve this.


simmons, a man who rips on people for a living didn't DESERVE this? are you serious? he sits there on every podcast and article and takes blatant shots at pretty much every media figure except those on his network.. which he takes veiled shots at. so then olbermann rips him and calls him an untalented hack (which a majority of those post in this forum do daily. literally.) and now olbermann's an asshole for doing the same thing that simmons does and all of you do? olbermann might be a dick, but y'all need a water break.


I am a little surprised that nobody has used the quote above from 2006.


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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby like OR no like » 07 Mar 2010, 00:35

I'm not reading the column and have no interest in it. Simmons' historical analogy is ridiculous and 5000 words won't change that.

However, this brings up a large issue to me. I know the general consensus here is that Simmons hasn't been motivated in a decade. I would somewhat disagree with that, but I would agree that regardless of whether or not Simmons was motivated in the first part of the 2000s, he's become even LESS motivated since then. I mean, he use to write about sports and talk about sports at least. I know most people aren't fans of the Red Sex, Patriots, and Celtics, but there was a period of time when you could count on Simmons writing about his teams every fucking week and I liked it. Even if I didn't care as much about the teams, he was talking about sports and talking about the entire sport mostly through the lens of his admittedly biased support for his teams. Now, it's like he doesn't even care.

I mean, the Pats had an epic lose in the first round of the playoffs and he didn't even write a column about it. It's not so much that I care about the Pats lose, but the Simmons of 5 years ago would have written a massive tome about it. This Simmons? Not so much. It's like he doesn't even care anymore since the loss in the Super Bowl against the Giants.

He's hardly even talked about the Celtics this year.

He hasn't written many Red Sox columns the past few years.

I don't mind the references to the Bachelor, Jersey Shore, Karate Kid, Rocky, Teen Wolf, etc. They have always been there. But there use to be passion about sports behind them. Not anymore.

He's instead drifted into writing about personalities: Manny, Lebron, Kobe, Tiger, etc. and novelties: the NBA trade machine, Hollywood insider talk, and the TMZ special of the week.

It's just sad to me that there was a time not too long ago that I rather frequently had the thought to myself, "I can't wait to read what Simmons has to say about this." Now, I read his columns, if I do at all, to wonder how he'll further proof that he's stagnant, regressed, and no longer someone whose opinion I respect.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby ComplexLitigations » 07 Mar 2010, 02:06

mister bacon wrote:
ComplexLitigations wrote:Simmons didn't deserve this.


simmons, a man who rips on people for a living didn't DESERVE this? are you serious? he sits there on every podcast and article and takes blatant shots at pretty much every media figure except those on his network.. which he takes veiled shots at. so then olbermann rips him and calls him an untalented hack (which a majority of those post in this forum do daily. literally.) and now olbermann's an asshole for doing the same thing that simmons does and all of you do? olbermann might be a dick, but y'all need a water break.


There's a difference between what he does on his podcast and what occurred between Olbermann and him. If you refer all the way back to the podcast he did with Matt Stone they discussed these different levels of attacks on someone. Stone basically said like what they do on south park they'll just make fun of a person and its like they farted in their face, big deal its just a cartoon character on cable. There is no intent of personal attacks to harm the person or ill will towards them, its just making fun of the situation. I would say that Simmons does a very similar thing on his podcast. Simmons constantly "rips" people and makes fun of them sure, but have you EVER heard him come out and personally attack someone? When is the last time he came on his podcast and said anything along the lines of what Olbermann said about him. I'd love to see a line or quote, also Olbermann MEANT it and thats why Simmons doesn't deserve it. Simmons makes a living out of saying certain bball players are washed up and whatnot, but he's a man of the people he's not trying to bring anybody down.

Bottom line is Simmons uses the appropriate amount of humor and as a result its taken very lightly. Olbermann on the other hand came out swinging and showed absolutely no class.

Also, Bacon lets remember that Simmons ALSO constantly rips himself. He makes fun of himself all the time, its the exact same attitude as when he makes fun of other people. It's all in good fun, nothing is meant by it and we can all have a laugh. Goodnight and Goodluck.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby nova » 07 Mar 2010, 10:18

ComplexLitigations wrote:There's a difference between what he does on his podcast and what occurred between Olbermann and him. If you refer all the way back to the podcast he did with Matt Stone they discussed these different levels of attacks on someone. Stone basically said like what they do on south park they'll just make fun of a person and its like they farted in their face, big deal its just a cartoon character on cable. There is no intent of personal attacks to harm the person or ill will towards them, its just making fun of the situation. I would say that Simmons does a very similar thing on his podcast. Simmons constantly "rips" people and makes fun of them sure, but have you EVER heard him come out and personally attack someone? When is the last time he came on his podcast and said anything along the lines of what Olbermann said about him. I'd love to see a line or quote, also Olbermann MEANT it and thats why Simmons doesn't deserve it. Simmons makes a living out of saying certain bball players are washed up and whatnot, but he's a man of the people he's not trying to bring anybody down.

Bottom line is Simmons uses the appropriate amount of humor and as a result its taken very lightly. Olbermann on the other hand came out swinging and showed absolutely no class.


To me, this is Simmons' way to be able deny ever "saying" something offensive. Simmons is crafty enough to stop short of actually saying something offensive in his columns; they're generally very thinly veiled shots at people who are easy to identify. By not coming out and personally attacking somebody, like Jason Whitlock would do, Simmons can always say "I didn't say that; you implied it from my joke...maybe you're taking things a little too personally"...which in my opinion, is a bitch move. Simpson obviously is VERY opinionated and he is neutered by ESPN; but at the same time, I don't think he's got the balls to attack people who are more intelligent than he is (Olbermann), more accomplished than he is (Isiah Thomas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elgin Baylor, et al) or those who would otherwise beat the shit out of him if he was 1/100 as relevant as he thought he was. Bill Simmons is showing how low his labia hangs right now. Olbermann has an obvious axe to grind with ESPN and Simmons took the bait. Be prepared for BS taking credit for any uptick in Olbermann's Twitter followers.

ComplexLitigations wrote:Also, Bacon lets remember that Simmons ALSO constantly rips himself. He makes fun of himself all the time, its the exact same attitude as when he makes fun of other people. It's all in good fun, nothing is meant by it and we can all have a laugh. Goodnight and Goodluck.


I think you're dead wrong here. Bill Simmons is a snarky bitch who had an opportunity to back up his big talk when he met Isiah poolside in Vegas. Instead, he turned it around and called it schtick.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby ONTB » 07 Mar 2010, 11:00

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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby Dr Jeckyll » 07 Mar 2010, 12:03

great posts Private Zod, i agree.

Simpson obviously is VERY opinionated and he is neutered by ESPN; but at the same time, I don't think he's got the balls to attack people who are more intelligent than he is (Olbermann), more accomplished than he is (Isiah Thomas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elgin Baylor, et al) or those who would otherwise beat the shit out of him if he was 1/100 as relevant as he thought he was.


sure....? i'm not sure how "accomplished" someone need to be to observe that Isiah and Elgin Baylor were bad gms.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby nova » 07 Mar 2010, 12:07

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Simpson obviously is VERY opinionated and he is neutered by ESPN; but at the same time, I don't think he's got the balls to attack people who are more intelligent than he is (Olbermann), more accomplished than he is (Isiah Thomas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elgin Baylor, et al) or those who would otherwise beat the shit out of him if he was 1/100 as relevant as he thought he was.


sure....? i'm not sure how "accomplished" someone need to be to observe that Isiah and Elgin Baylor were bad gms.


What I mean, is that Simmons makes his observations and then rallies his fans around him when Elgin Baylor calls him an asshole or Isiah Thomas wants to punch him in the face. It's kind of like the douchebag who talks a lot of shit in a softball game, but when it comes time to fight, he's running away from the confrontation saying "Calm down, dude! It's not a big deal".
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby JichaelDick » 07 Mar 2010, 12:08

Isiah and Elgin are both more accomplished if for nothing else what they did on the court. And it's true--Simmons completely went out like a bitch when confronted with Elgin and Isiah face-to-face.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby DinoVelvet » 07 Mar 2010, 13:02

nasty nova wrote:
ComplexLitigations wrote:There's a difference between what he does on his podcast and what occurred between Olbermann and him. If you refer all the way back to the podcast he did with Matt Stone they discussed these different levels of attacks on someone. Stone basically said like what they do on south park they'll just make fun of a person and its like they farted in their face, big deal its just a cartoon character on cable. There is no intent of personal attacks to harm the person or ill will towards them, its just making fun of the situation. I would say that Simmons does a very similar thing on his podcast. Simmons constantly "rips" people and makes fun of them sure, but have you EVER heard him come out and personally attack someone? When is the last time he came on his podcast and said anything along the lines of what Olbermann said about him. I'd love to see a line or quote, also Olbermann MEANT it and thats why Simmons doesn't deserve it. Simmons makes a living out of saying certain bball players are washed up and whatnot, but he's a man of the people he's not trying to bring anybody down.

Bottom line is Simmons uses the appropriate amount of humor and as a result its taken very lightly. Olbermann on the other hand came out swinging and showed absolutely no class.


To me, this is Simmons' way to be able deny ever "saying" something offensive. Simmons is crafty enough to stop short of actually saying something offensive in his columns; they're generally very thinly veiled shots at people who are easy to identify. By not coming out and personally attacking somebody, like Jason Whitlock would do, Simmons can always say "I didn't say that; you implied it from my joke...maybe you're taking things a little too personally"...which in my opinion, is a bitch move. Simpson obviously is VERY opinionated and he is neutered by ESPN; but at the same time, I don't think he's got the balls to attack people who are more intelligent than he is (Olbermann), more accomplished than he is (Isiah Thomas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elgin Baylor, et al) or those who would otherwise beat the shit out of him if he was 1/100 as relevant as he thought he was. my favorite podcaster is showing how low his labia hangs right now. Olbermann has an obvious axe to grind with ESPN and Simmons took the bait. Be prepared for BS taking credit for any uptick in Olbermann's Twitter followers.

ComplexLitigations wrote:Also, Bacon lets remember that Simmons ALSO constantly rips himself. He makes fun of himself all the time, its the exact same attitude as when he makes fun of other people. It's all in good fun, nothing is meant by it and we can all have a laugh. Goodnight and Goodluck.


I think you're dead wrong here. my favorite podcaster is a snarky bitch who had an opportunity to back up his big talk when he met Isiah poolside in Vegas. Instead, he turned it around and called it schtick.


You summed it up perfectly, Nova. Plus, I think it was pretty ridiculous of the other guy to say that Simmons doesn't make personal attacks or intend ill will towards his targets—this is a man, after all, who called Clemens the "Antichrist", has repeatedly ripped on A-Rod for the hue of his lips, made disparaging remarks about Peyton Manning's looks, Kobe's character, Isaiah's intelligence, Jay Leno, the list goes on and on and on. These are just some of the examples that immediately spring to mind.

The only difference between Olbermann and Simmons is that Olbermann is blunt with his insults. He just comes right out and says it. In comparison, Simba usually tries to couch his insults in humor so he can leave himself an out if he ever gets into a face-to-face confrontation with one of his targets (like with Isaiah). Of course, just because the insults are presented as jokes doesn't make them any less ad hominem attacks. This, in my book, puts Olbermann one step above Simba. Olbermann is a turd himself, but at least he has the balls to stand behind his words. Simba, on the other hand, is the kind of guy who will say shit behind someone's back and then backtrack when he's called to account for it. In short, Simba's a punk.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby ShootTheCooz » 07 Mar 2010, 14:28

Simba, on the other hand, is the kind of guy who will say shit behind someone's back and then backtrack when he's called to account for it. In short, Simba's a punk.


Now that's an understatement. He comes off as a Peter Pan frat boy who is scared of his own shadow. The racial and sexual anxiety that wafts through his "writings" is almost palpable. You always find these punks at ballgames, screaming abuse and insults at players from the safety of the stands, snarling like weasels after a few beers with their buddies. Simmons and his ilk are just the kind of douchebags that got thumped by Artest and Jackson during the Motown Melee. These dipshits like to prove themselves by engaging in activities that have a hint of danger attached to them: gambling, strips clubs, Vegas trips, whores, porn, etc., and they feel that they have validated themselves and proven themselves badasses by laying a three team tease or paying for 10 lap dances in a row. Stone cold pussies.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby MisterTambourineMan » 08 Mar 2010, 11:24

I think Simmons coming out with that weak, 34-year-old woman-like insult "you're alone" is more of a personal shot than Olbermann saying Simmons lacks talent. That's a professional insult, there's no personal stuff in there. Above the belt.

Simmons couldn't respond to it in the professional sense, and went personal.


You're alone.....what a catty bitch.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby BFP » 08 Mar 2010, 11:32

MisterTambourineMan wrote:I think Simmons coming out with that weak, 34-year-old woman-like insult "you're alone" is more of a personal shot than Olbermann saying Simmons lacks talent. That's a professional insult, there's no personal stuff in there. Above the belt.

Simmons couldn't respond to it in the professional sense, and went personal.


You're alone.....what a catty bitch.


Not only are you right that it was personal, it probably means that Olbermann has been married for 11 years and has 3 kids, given Simba's track record of being horribly wrong about things he claims to know.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby Goreaxe » 08 Mar 2010, 12:46

BFP wrote:Not only are you right that it was personal, it probably means that Olbermann has been married for 11 years and has 3 kids, given Simba's track record of being horribly wrong about things he claims to know.


Olbermann has a hot blonde 25 year old live in girlfriend name Katy Tur. It took me about 1 min to find this out. Simmons is so incompetent, his efforts at a cheap shot have exposed the fact that Olbermann is doing better with the ladies than he is. Amazing.

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The fact is the Simba is holding a losing hand with his Ali article and everyone knows it. Has a single media member defended his position? That means it's open season on him. If Simba gets into a fight with anyone over this, it just calls more attention to his stupid article. I think what pushed his buttons with Olbermann was how completely dismissive he was with Billy. It took him only one sentence to cast aside Simba's entire professional work.

Since Simmons has started to become more of a public figure he's starting to receive the attention and criticisms that he's dished out at others for years. So far, Simba is completely folding under the pressure. His twitter fights with local journalists, radio guys and commentators are a prime example. It's been easy for him to lob grenades at people from behind the ESPN wall that protects him from everything, including user comments on his articles. But out on his own, he's been exposed as a thin-skinned, insecure, whining douche bag.
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Re: Simpson-YES, Tiger's Comeback Tougher than Ali's, so SUCK IT

Postby TVF wannabe » 08 Mar 2010, 12:47

According to wiki he lives with Katy Tur since 06.
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